Islam Flourishes Among Blacks
Via Drudge.
This Reuter's article is a fascinating look into what motivates many blacks in America to turn to Islam. Islam is growing fast amongst the black population (African-Americans per journalist) in America.
"Converts within the black community say they are attracted to the disciplines of prayer, the emphasis within Islam on submission to God and the religion's affinity with people who are oppressed."
This brings to mind what the Imam Isa Abdul Mateen spoke about in the CAIR meeting that Troll and I attended last year. He spoke a lot about OPPRESSION. Can someone enlighten me on who, exactly, might be oppressed? I can only think of the Jews and Christians in moslem countries. Who is being oppressed in America??
The story highlights a mosque in Atlanta, GA. It goes on to explain that the mosque has strong ties to the history of black moslems in America. Here is another snippet of the article:
"You are talking about a people who were cut off from their roots .... Islam reconnects you with Africa and with other parts of the world so your peoplehood transcends race," Ali said later in an interview.
The mosque has a direct link to a slice of black history. It was founded by H. Rap Brown, a one-time member of the 1960s Black Panthers group. Brown became a Muslim in prison in the 1970s and changed his name to Jamil al-Amin.
The Black Panthers of the 1960s has the reputation of a ruthless, Marxist organization. Many blacks in prison are converting to islam, which the 'Wahhabi Lobby' has influence over in selecting Wahhabist imams for the United States prison system. Wahhabism is the poisonous, radical sect of islam controlling Saudi Arabia. KSA distributes billions of dollars globally to promote Wahhabism. Schools, prisons, textbooks, mosques in America and madrassas throughout islamic countries in Asia.
Nevermind though, because Brown is serving a life sentence in prison right now for murdering a cop.
This particular mosque teaches that there is no difference between Sunni and Shia moslems. That is a lie. There is a huge difference between Sunni and Shia moslems - a major disagreement that goes way back to when Mo died, from what I understand. Much blood has been shed between the two groups in this little dispute.
I wonder what else is being preached? Don't you? Maybe, just maybe, it's this:
"America needs war to maintain its economic status," he said."
"For young African Americans, there is some attraction to learning about traditions that have been associated with resistance to European imperialism,"...
"Islam reconnects you with Africa and with other parts of the world so your peoplehood transcends race,"...
America does not need war to maintain its economic status. America needs less government interference into the free market to maintain its economic status.
Would someone, anyone, please explain to me what 'European imperialism' we are suffering with right now??
It also sounds to me as though nothing transcends race for the followers of this particular mosque. It's all ABOUT race. What happened to 'I Have a Dream?' What happened to that??? I believe that Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave at what the civil rights movement has become. Preferences, separation, remuneration for past injustices, victimhood, delusions of some sort of 'oppression' in the United States of America.
Well - it's here and we are going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Islam has become the new vehicle used to justify criminal behavior.
Keep your powder dry.
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This Reuter's article is a fascinating look into what motivates many blacks in America to turn to Islam. Islam is growing fast amongst the black population (African-Americans per journalist) in America.
"Converts within the black community say they are attracted to the disciplines of prayer, the emphasis within Islam on submission to God and the religion's affinity with people who are oppressed."
This brings to mind what the Imam Isa Abdul Mateen spoke about in the CAIR meeting that Troll and I attended last year. He spoke a lot about OPPRESSION. Can someone enlighten me on who, exactly, might be oppressed? I can only think of the Jews and Christians in moslem countries. Who is being oppressed in America??
The story highlights a mosque in Atlanta, GA. It goes on to explain that the mosque has strong ties to the history of black moslems in America. Here is another snippet of the article:
"You are talking about a people who were cut off from their roots .... Islam reconnects you with Africa and with other parts of the world so your peoplehood transcends race," Ali said later in an interview.
The mosque has a direct link to a slice of black history. It was founded by H. Rap Brown, a one-time member of the 1960s Black Panthers group. Brown became a Muslim in prison in the 1970s and changed his name to Jamil al-Amin.
The Black Panthers of the 1960s has the reputation of a ruthless, Marxist organization. Many blacks in prison are converting to islam, which the 'Wahhabi Lobby' has influence over in selecting Wahhabist imams for the United States prison system. Wahhabism is the poisonous, radical sect of islam controlling Saudi Arabia. KSA distributes billions of dollars globally to promote Wahhabism. Schools, prisons, textbooks, mosques in America and madrassas throughout islamic countries in Asia.
Nevermind though, because Brown is serving a life sentence in prison right now for murdering a cop.
This particular mosque teaches that there is no difference between Sunni and Shia moslems. That is a lie. There is a huge difference between Sunni and Shia moslems - a major disagreement that goes way back to when Mo died, from what I understand. Much blood has been shed between the two groups in this little dispute.
I wonder what else is being preached? Don't you? Maybe, just maybe, it's this:
"America needs war to maintain its economic status," he said."
"For young African Americans, there is some attraction to learning about traditions that have been associated with resistance to European imperialism,"...
"Islam reconnects you with Africa and with other parts of the world so your peoplehood transcends race,"...
America does not need war to maintain its economic status. America needs less government interference into the free market to maintain its economic status.
Would someone, anyone, please explain to me what 'European imperialism' we are suffering with right now??
It also sounds to me as though nothing transcends race for the followers of this particular mosque. It's all ABOUT race. What happened to 'I Have a Dream?' What happened to that??? I believe that Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave at what the civil rights movement has become. Preferences, separation, remuneration for past injustices, victimhood, delusions of some sort of 'oppression' in the United States of America.
Well - it's here and we are going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Islam has become the new vehicle used to justify criminal behavior.
Keep your powder dry.
posted by Grizzly Mama | 14:23
31 Comments:
just as the blacks are the house slaves to the democrat party the ones that have been effected by that association are ripe for the conversion to the wahabists. For decades the dems have convinced them that they are oppressed and victims, and destroyed the black family unit (70% of blacks are raised in single parent homes) with the programming that they have been indoctrinated with it hasen't taken much to bring them to the radical extreme of Islam 90% of the american born Imams are prison converts so you have a religion preaching death and glorifying suicide bombings being preached to hardcore murderers rapists and drug dealers who already blame everyone except themselves for there problems. How long before they mobilize?
It's a worrying trend Monica, and I fully agree with your post
Do you know what might have happened to Kermit of Bubba's Bog? He hasn't posted since October.
A while back I sent an e-mail to the Nation of Islam, wondering why people, black people, whose ancestors were enslaved by white people and other blacks as well, would choose now to be enslaved by Islam instead of choosing to be free. I explained I had studied Islam some and researched Muhammad and Islam and was aware the religion began by threatening non conformists with death and, in many cases, actually killing people, sometimes entire villages, to force people to convert to Islam, and I wondered how these Americans, the freest people on Earth could choose such a vile religion.
He, of course, sent me an answer saying, in essence, they weren't of the same sect(sic) as 'regular' Muslims and didn't particularly agree with "their brother" Muslims about everything, and on and on.
I don't think blacks really want to be regular free Americans. Hence, "African American." I think they think they need someone here right now to worship; enter Elijah Muhammad and Louis Farrakhan, their gods. Too bad.
I agree Troll - some of the most violent and dangerous criminals are being wooed by islam.
DV - thanks.
I totally agree, Monica and Troll!! Islam is a sociopath's dream religion!
CA - I check on Bubba in the bog regularly. I have been wondering if he is alright. I hope so. Perhaps he's just hunkered down behind his razorwire - maybe hibernating. I hope that he is okay.
I think that the response from the imam might be covered under a term called taqqiya. I think - I'll have to check if that is the right word. I believe that it gives moslems the direction to lie - and that's okay because we all know that the moslems believe anything to spread islam is considered 'good'.
The left, the multi-culties are all about separating people. Not about bringing them together. We're not the melting pot anymore. Melting pot is a TERRIBLE thing to teach the kids now.
Hi tshsmom! Thanks for commenting. I can't believe about that psychopath 'Vest.' He's yucky! lol.
Did you see that black Imam convert from the U.S. preaching hate in Britain?
It was on that "Undercover Mosque" program in the U.K.
Not to say that all black Muslims are radicalized. But there is that problem out there.
What to do about it? Shut off funding from Wahabbis for one thing.
Except no one has the guts to do it.
I did see that, Mike. The State Department loves the Wahhabi Lobby.
We could also start with cutting off forgeign aid to Saudi Arabia.
Keep your noses out of other counties affairs and you will have the resources and opportunity to deal with this inevitable dilemma.
Haven't you heard, colored people are human too.
David Hicks an Australian is being held captive in Guantanamo Bay. Five years without trial. Civilian Americans cannot be tried by a military court.
Have you heard of the law, innocent until proven guilty?
I notice Tshsmom is still spreading ill will and hatred. Let us pray the lord will help her mend her wicked ways.
Hey Vest:
Ever heard of the Constitution? It's there to protect American citizens, not terrorists whose goal is to destroy the country.
When your jihad loving pals decided to drop the sword and swear allegiance to the flag I might consider being a bit more lenient.
Until then, stop your whining.
Hey, Vest, ditto on what Mike's America said!
I once made the observation that I thought it was somewhat awkward and strange and that which I didn't quite understand, that blacks who were sold into slavery by Arabs should adopt their religion. My comment was countered by someone who said they didn't understand the slave's adoption of Christianity either.
The fact that the teachings of Jesus are centered around the words "Love Thy Neighbor" while the teachings of Mohammed center around the words "enslave thy neighbor" seemed to be unimportant.
Double ditto on what Mike said.
Vest, you are doing a fine job spreading hatred by your own little self.
DC - I thought it was hilarious when the article mentioned getting back to their 'roots' with islam. What a bunch of crap.
As has been said already, Africans were captured and sold into slavery by Muslims. BTW, this is happening even today.
American Blacks blame whites for slavery.
American Blacks fought for freedom and equality. From the 1860s to the 1960s, the Republican Party struggled to help American Blacks obtain their goals against the machinations of the Democratic Party.
American Blacks blame Republicans for the discrimination practiced between the end of the Civil War and today.
Biting the feeding hand might seem to be a pattern.
Can I be politically incorrect for a moment and say that I think blacks are oppressed by their own focus on the past and the refusal of their leaders to assist in helping black communities take responsibility for themselves?
Not that there aren't barriers to success for minorities even in America, but it isn't exactly the way it was, either.
Thanks Indigo. I agree. I can't believe you're not on my sidebar - that will be fixed tonight.
Dana - it's one of those subjects that we are not encouraged to discuss, I think. I also think that the welfare state has had something to do with keeping blacks under the thumb. Even with all of that, blacks achieve the highest offices in America. Speaking as individuals - sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Our own prejudices and fear and hatred hold us back. The black leaders play on that and keep it going. Jesse Jackson makes a lot of money as long as those negative ideas are rife among the people he purports to lead. In my opinion, islam also has an interest in keeping those negative ideas going.
There are barriers for anyone - there are barriers for me because I am a female. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the world because in America, anyone has a chance. In America things change, injustices are addressed, our freedom to question and argue and change is recognized. Our power as people to decide is recognized. Not that it is easy, and not that the right thing always happens instantly - but it does eventually.
I don't like speaking on these topics, because I'm not black and it is always interpreted as racist. I had a friend in high school that was plagued by it...she wanted to do something with her life and worked hard to get decent grades, apply for college, etc. She was not fully accepted by her white peers because she was black and rejected by her black peers because she was an "oreo."
That is the most blatant hatred of one group toward another I have experienced in America. You can hardly call it racism, but it is racially motivated. And it holds a community hostage.
Dana - it is uncomfortable because racism is the charge always leveled when one attempts to be straight about what is happening.
As for name calling - I believe that the black democrats are the worst example of that. What they've said about Condoleeza Rice, and many other black republicans is a disgrace. Somehow they're not 'black enough' if they don't fall lockstep into that black sterotype that, oddly enough, they continue to perpetuate themselves.
I have also seen this in person on my block, when a black highschooler heaped abuse on another because they had an 'A' average in math. I almost intervened because he just wouldn't stop and he was SO obnoxious. Finally another kid in the group stopped it but only after it had gone on for a good 10 minutes. Everyone in the group tried their level best to ignore it, but he just wouldn't shut up.
This massive trial is going to be done soon and the verdict will be absolutely pivotal:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6315719.stm
The central witness (supergrass) is a US citizen
"He explained that even though his mother had survived the al-Qaeda suicide attacks on the World Trade Center, he decided soon afterwards to travel to Pakistan to fight what he called the "jihad" in neighbouring Afghanistan"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4839484.stm
Interesting for both the UK and US
Somehow they're not 'black enough' if they don't fall lockstep into that black sterotype that, oddly enough, they continue to perpetuate themselves.
This is a lazy cut-and-paste of a comment I left on my own blog in response to someone else's comment; I think it fits in here:
I lived with two brothers who are black, for 6 years during my college years, and right after. They were also teammates of mine. They come from a middle class family in New Mexico, and both became doctors. When we were still in college, one student asked my roommate Greg if he had been to any ASU meetings, lately. Greg responded, "Oh, yeah; we competed there recently." Greg thought the guy meant Arizona State University, where we regularly went each year for gymnastics competitions. The guy shook his head, thinking my roommate was so out of touch, as he was referring to the African Student Union on campus.
It is discouraging and demoralizing to my American psyche, that my roommates in some circles, are ostracized by other blacks as being "whitewashed" and "oreos" (black on the outside, white on the in) the way that I would be considered a twinkie (yellow on the outside, white on the in). Simply because they choose to speak good English and embrace middle American culture, rather than segregate themselves off from mainstream society by changing their "slave" names to Afro-Muslim names, and by not embracing pseudo-black Kwanzaa-style culture. They chose to follow the example of Bill Cosby, and not Ron Karenga. They chose not to be victims with a chip on their shoulders; instead, they worked hard to live successful lives.
My former roommates aren't Africans. They are Americans.
UCLA is supposed to be a bastion of diversity. But I used to be turned off by the student groups. When you walked to class down Bruin Walk, the ASU would all mingle together on one side; the Chinese Student group would all loiter around the steps of Kerkhoff. And they'd all basically segregate themselves.
I understand the yearning some have to find commonality and find a support group that shares your background and celebrate cultural heritage. But groups like MECha and La Raza did nothing but be separatists, in my opinion. They fuel racism and conflict.
I once attended an event hosted by the campus Pilipino student group. And it was a big turn-off. If I were white interested in learning about Filipino culture, all I would have learned is about how another leftist diversity group feels victimized and oppressed by white American imperialism. Unbelievable! I think (and I could be wrong on this) usually it's the first generation immigrant parents who come here that appreciates America; and it is their children indoctrinated in our liberal school systems that become activists against the idea of American Exceptionalism in favor of the Noam Chomsky-Ward Churchill worldview that sees America as the world's oppressor.
Would someone, anyone, please explain to me what 'European imperialism' we are suffering with right now??
I think someone like Thomas Sowell recognizes the good that has resulted from western imperialism. The end of slavery began in the West, among British and western powers. And it was through western imperial might that they were able to pressure other governments to end the slave trade, and to use their naval powers to police the high seas for slave ships.
Meanwhile, slavery is still a reality in parts of the Islamic world.
Thank you Wordsmith. I appreciate your comments - you have said it exactly right.
well if they have a need to reconnect with their roots , what they need is a one way ticket back to their country be it africa or where ever they came from !!!
Cubed here (not Ann - Blogger is messing with me!)
Wow! This sure got a response!
I just love it when the Anti-Americans use the term "imperialism."
"Imperialism" is "the policy of extending rule over other nations."
Unfortunately, that's not what the America-Europe Haters mean; by "imperialism" they mean "cultural influence." You know, things like blue jeans, Starbucks, music, private ownership of property, freedom to think or believe, American slang, yada-yada.
And I love it when the blacks who have failed to take advantage of the opportunities in this country forget that it was the Muslims in the interior of Africa who captured black tribespeople and sold them to European and American slavers on the coast, or that it was Europe and America who put an end to slavery, while Saudi Arabia only did so in 1962 (I could be off a year or so either way), but that de facto slavery still exists there and in other Islamic countries. They even have to be hauled into court in this country from time to time to answer to charges of slavery. Slow learners, huh?
Being "oppressed" in a country where opportunity is limited only by one's willingness to dream and work hard is simply an excuse for laziness, for resenting not having things handed to him without earning it.
Someone doesn't like you? Gee, that's never happened to anyone else! Someone doesn't want to hire you? Goodness, gracious! Imagine that - it's another thing that no one else has ever experienced! Failed at your first (or more) attempts to go into business? How about that - join the other 50% of us!
tshsmom hits the nail on the head when she says "Islam is a sociopath's dream religion!"
The reason this is so is because of the moral code of Islam. A "moral code" is a set of values chosen to guide one's thoughts and behaviors.
Our "standard of the good" (the core value by which all others are measured) is "human life." If some thought or behavior supports it, then it's good. If it threatens it, then it's bad.
Not so with Islam. Their core value is "the spread of Islam." Support it, and you're good; get in the way, and you're bad.
There's not a human on the face of the earth who can endure feeling "immoral." It's the intellectual equivalent of physical pain.
So, the trick that Muslims pull so that they can feel morally justified for what they do is very simple - they choose a set of values that says it's OK to commit murder and mayhem in order to further the spread of Islam.
This is why they can blow each other (and us) up in a school, a marketplace, on a bus or subway, in a pizza parlor, or an office building, and then smile in contentment over having done something "good."
Ain't Islam wonderful! Can't wait until that crescent flag is flying over the Capitol Building and the Koran has replaced the Constitution!
Jerks.
Cubed, EXACTLY!! AND our prisons are full of sociopaths, so what better place to recruit for Islam.
I hear you Gina. All of the mohammedans who are working toward forcing us to respect sharia law - go live in one of the 'stans'. Or Saudi Arabia, or Iran. It's not happening here in America.
Thank you, Cubed. You are so right.
Tshsmom - the wahhabis know exactly what they're doing.
Cubed here.
Wordsmith,
Thomas Sowell is such a hero of mine, along with Walter Williams, Ward Connerly, Larry Elder, and Ken Hamlin, among many, many others, past and present. So many worthies, so little time to talk about them! I'm like you - I had (black) classmates in medical school who went on to become extremely accomplished in their fields, and they were not unique.
I am so encouraged that people like Cosby are out there telling people to stop whining, get off their butts, and use their brains! Brains are not the exclusive property of whites and orientals. Oprah Winfrey once said that while she felt sorry for her slave ancestors, that she felt terribly fortunate to have been their descendant, and born in this country. Even Mohammed Ali, after a fight in Africa, said that he was really glad his ancestors had "made the trip."
One of my favorite things is the "certificate" that Walter Williams hands out to many of his white callers who feel guilty about the fact that before slavery ended, there were white people who owned slaves. The certificate absolves them of all responsibility in the matter!
I've always found it interesting that Williams was the Chairman of the Department of Economics at George Mason University (he's Emeritus now); George Mason was one of the Founders, and a grouchy guy (because of a really bad case of gout) who refused to sign on to the Constitution because it didn't prohibit the further importation of slaves. There was another Founder, of whom we hear very darned little, who went one better - he freed all 450 of his slaves in protest over the institution of slavery. His name was Robert Carter (I don't know if he was related to the president).
Even as far back as Cicero, the philosopher-statesman of Rome, the idea that slavery violated natural law was widely discussed, and Rome instituted many legal policies which tended to weaken slavery; a major principle of Roman law was to "err on the side of freedom" when a slave's legal status was in doubt. Manumission became so frequent that laws had to be passed to slow it down! There were plays where a girl was thought to be a slave, and later found to have been illegally enslaved (the conditions under which someone could be enslaved were tightly restricted), and later turned out to be a princess - sort of an early "Cinderella" theme. If an old or sick slave was abandoned by his master, he was given sanctuary in a local temple and automatically became free. Laws were passed limiting the severity of punishment a slave could receive.
Really, because of the nasty "games" that Rome inherited from her Etruscan neighbors (although most participants were volunteers because the fame and money were so good), the Romans got a really bad rap.
We in the West have a long, long tradition of working hard to rid society of slavery, a practice that goes back as long as the human race has existed. Abolition got its biggest boost with the Industrial Revolution, when machines were invented that took over much of the work that had previously been performed by slaves.
That's one of the reasons why Islamic countries are still trailing the rest of the world re: their attitude towards slavery, and why, in practice, it still exists in them. I even remember a trip made by my father in 1953 to Saudi Arabia - he described the black slaves who served dinner to them.
The anti-intellectual philosophy of Islam never led them to the Renaissance, the Enlightenment (that was when the case against slavery began to take off like greased lightning), or the Industrial Revolution, which put the nail in slavery's coffin.
When the rest of the world leapt ahead in productivity during the Industrial Revolution, the Muslims trailed severely, and started yelling that the only reason they were not achieving the kinds of progress that we were achieving in the West was because we were deliberately "oppressing" them, and that there was an international conspiracy, led by the Jews and implemented by their Christian puppets, to keep them down. It was then, from the late 1700s to the present, that the "conspiracy theories" began to fluorish as an explanation (make that "excuse") for Islamic failures. And so it's no surprise that the Islamic policy of pointing the finger of blame at others for their own failures should appeal to others, such as prisoners, whose own bad life choices have caused them to fail in life.
It's going to be a long, hard climb, folks, and the only "workaround" the current PC poop is the homeschooling movement.
I agree, Cubed. We have to take our children back. We must.
Slavery has come up many times in our history lessons. From ancient history up until the time that it was abolished long ago in the US. To present times in backward nations where it still exists. The girls always have the same reaction: Eyes wide and exclamations of how terrible it is.
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