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Friday, September 01, 2006

Aesop's Fable Friday

The Donkey and His Driver

A Donkey was being driven down a mountain road, and after jogging along for a while sensibly enough, he suddenly left the track and rushed to the edge of a precipice.

He was just about the leap over the edge when his Driver caught hold of his tail and did his best to pull him back: but pull as he might he couldn't get the Donkey to budge from the brink.

At last the Driver gave up, crying, "All right, then, get to the bottom your own way; but it's the way to sudden death as you'll find out quick enough."

Moral of the story: A willful beast must go his own way.


Blogger Mike's America said...

It would be just tooooo easy to make a joke about the Democrats and Ned Lamont....

P.S. Isn't that Flickr thing neat?

02 September, 2006 00:45  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Oh - I can think of a few good ones that fit the fable.

Yes Mike - I saw that on your site and went and got one myself. Thanks!

02 September, 2006 01:11  
Blogger dcat said...

Yes I was going to relate it to a Democrap too he,he,he,he,...^..^

02 September, 2006 16:04  
Blogger Gayle said...

Yep, the Donkey is a Dem, there's absolutely no doubt.

I saw the flicker thing and like it too. Guess I'll go get one. Thanks! :)

02 September, 2006 18:38  
Blogger Rastaman said...

Actually, the donkey saw a bunch of elephants laying around doing nothing like elephants do a lot, and decided to jump on top of the pile and stir things up. Considering how long those elephants had been sucking away at pork barrels, the donkey was assured of a soft landing.

There's good and bad on all sides of anything. When views start becoming one-sided, minds start closing.


02 September, 2006 20:44  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Quite frankly I cannot see the equivalent happening on the Republican side, Rasta.

The democrat party has been hijacked by the leftists. The leftists are not liberal in the classic sense of the word.

02 September, 2006 23:25  
Blogger dcat said...

So true Monica!

03 September, 2006 02:04  
Blogger Rastaman said...

If it is true that the Dems have been hijacked by the left, then it's also true that the GOP has been hijacked by the right. What else can we call the religious extremism that wants to outlaw abortion and stem cell research, for example?

Religion has zero place in government. Our constitution is clear about the separation of church and state, yet here we have a Republican dominated government that is trying to shove its religious convictions down all our throats.

The Democrats have a lot of Lefties, it's true. They also have people who lean to the right, and a lot of others in the middle, just as the GOP does.

Neither party has been hijacked by the left or the right. Both sides have allowed the voices of extremists to become too loud and I'm really tired of all the partisan bickering. Is our country ever going to come together again? When do we stop all the childish smearing and mudslinging and start governing ourselves in a spirit of mutual cooperation again?

Time we backed off and took a good look in the mirror.


03 September, 2006 12:26  
Blogger MonicaR said...

I completely disagree with you Rasta.

Of course you are correct in atleast one thing: that there IS a far right. They are most definitely NOT in control of the Republican party however. They are on the fringe where they belong. Not true with the Democrats and the leftys.

Get used to the fact that we will never agree on everything here in America. Get used to the fact that politics is a dirty business. It always has been and always will be.

The religious zealots are not in control of our government and for you to say such a thing exposes you Rasta.

There are plenty of people of all religious persuasions who do not agree with abortion on demand - especially late term abortion. There are plenty of people who don't see the value of embryonic stem cell research - - there is not one piece of scientific evidence to back it up. There is, however, pages of evidence showing the efficacy of adult stem cells.

Science is being politicized on this issue - but it's not the Christian zealots doing it.

03 September, 2006 23:43  
Blogger Mike's America said...

"Republican dominated government that is trying to shove its religious convictions down all our throats."

Really? Got at least ONE good example or just the usual hoo-haa nonsense?

We do have a state religion in this country which has inflitrated every level of government, education and culture. And it's philosophical underpinnings are neo-socialim.

Example: Multiculturalism, NOT Americanism is worshipped in public schools.

Example: Your federal government uses tax dollars to promote the environmental religion of the left.

Lay off the brownies Rasta!

04 September, 2006 00:13  
Blogger MonicaR said...

"Republican dominated government that is trying to shove its religious convictions down all our throats."

I agree this is just an absolutely ridiculous statement.

04 September, 2006 00:24  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

Yes, too good of an opportunity not to compare this donkey to democrats. Oooh!! The possibilities!!! :-)

04 September, 2006 02:36  
Blogger Rastaman said...

"Neither party has been hijacked by the left or the right"

"The religious zealots are not in control of our government and for you to say such a thing exposes you Rasta."

Oh God I feel so naked for saying the truth. Well Monica, your party zeal is now exposed along with my lack of any.

I have other news too. Being a Christian does not mean sucking up the Republican party line. Where did I use the words "embryonic stem cell research"? Those are your words. "Science is being politicized on this issue - but it's not the Christian zealots doing it." You just did. There it is there.

You are doing the same stuff Mike does. You attack people for what they say instead of dealing with the issues they present. I thought better of you than that.

My turn. Mike, you imbecile, you obviously can't read as I've stated several times in response to your moronic remarks that I do not smoke marijuana or use drugs of any kind. Be done with it. Talk about exposing yourself....

I don't subscribe to any political party or any religion. I subscribe to the truth and that's it. I know that God exists and that works well for me. You can all go to special buildings to sing songs and rub beads or whatever it is you do and that's fine with me. You're Americans and you're entitled.

"Rastaman" is a pseudonym. I could be any color. You have no idea what color I am and that's on purpose and will stay that way. If you choose to launch some misplaced and assinine racial attack and assume I have certain proclivities, that simply displays your level of intolerance.

I have been commenting on this blog because for the most part, the posts have been very rational and level headed, and we have agreed on the need to combat Islamic terrorism and aggression.

My responses to the attack on the Democratic party have not been a defense of it or a counter-attack on the Republican party, but simply to point out the fallibility of both and the need to take an even-handed, open-minded view. If your blog is going to become a podium for the Republican Party to attack everyone else, then I shouldn't be here. I quit commenting on Mikes America for that very reason. I comment here as I did there, to discuss issues and not to be personally assailed for it. That's a cheap way to respond. Take a look at the header of my blog: One rule, don't shoot at me, I'm only the piano player. I didn't give you any personal crap and I'm not going to take any from you.

I'll repeat: I really am tired of all the partisan bickering, and this is just more of the same. I want no part of it. If you can't discuss politics without attacking, then you must not feel very secure in your argument.

You don't need me here anyway. You have plenty of friends. Enjoy them.


04 September, 2006 03:34  
Blogger Skye said...

Leave it to the 'rastaman' liberals in America to confuse the idea of freedom OF religion with that of freedom FROM religion.

Please reread:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Rasta, please state and provide the source of the federal law mandating a national religion.

04 September, 2006 23:14  
Blogger Skye said...

Religious extremism? WTF!

Why don't we have a national referendum on whether abortion should be illegal? Oh we, can't can we? The will of the people has been usurped by liberals who have used the Supreme Court to override the will of the majority. There is NO constitutional right to abortion. It is not an issue of privacy - but one of convienence.

You want to talk about extremism????

Name one cure that has come from Embrionic Stem Cell research? Just one will do.

There's no good, scientific reason the government should fund embryonic stem cell research.

BTW, Rast, no research has been banned by Bush's veto on appropriating Federal funds for it. Also, there are other forms of stem cell research for which government funding has not been blocked.

Research on adult stem cells have shown remarkable progress in treating diabetes, muscular dystrophy, blindness, heart disease, paralysis, cancer and dozens of other medical conditions.

The private sector and state governments are FREE to fund ESC projects as much as they like. California alone has appropriated three billion dollars for that purpose.

All Embrionic Stem Cell research proponents can talk about is potential breakthroughs, not actual results as seen in Adult Stem Cell research.

Rasta, do you have any good reasons why we should funnel taxpayer dollars into research that will take decades to reach the same point as Adult Stem Cell research?
What else can we call the religious extremism that wants to outlaw abortion and stem cell research,

04 September, 2006 23:36  
Blogger Skye said...

Oh, Monica

The Donkey has Democrat branded on its ass!

04 September, 2006 23:37  
Blogger MonicaR said...

First - Rasta you were not attacked by me. I simply disagreed with you. What has been revealed (by your utterly ridiculous statement of Christianity being shoved down your throat) is that you are not rational. When an attempt was made to offer a different POV - you went frigging ballistic. Sheesh.

Where did the race crap come from? Who brought up race besides Rasta?

You are welcome to comment here Rasta but do not expect me to agree with everything that you say. The diatribe you unleashed, with accusations of being attacked, just because I did not agree with you has been quite shocking to me.

It also seems that your distaste for 'partisan' bickering REALLY means that no justified criticism is to be leveled by anyone at anytime. That's just the way it's coming across, Rasta.

Skye - I tried explaining the stem cell research thing to Rasta. I don't think he understood. It was he who initially leveled the accusation of Christian throat shoving on that issue - - not me. Thanks for trying anyway..

05 September, 2006 00:02  
Blogger DirtCrashr said...

People keep saying that there's a horrible Federal stranglehold and repression on Embryonic Stem-Cell Research, meanwhile a huge private University here is already spending millions on research lines and setting up Faculty and Institutes. There's a LOT of money and activity going on, funded privately and in conjunction with the State of California. We passed Proposition 71 that started a mad rush for money and prestige research jobs. To quote the Stanford Daily, "Since the November passage of Proposition 71, the California Stem Cell Research and Cures Initiative, the brand new California Institute of Regenerative Medicine, or CIRM, has been gearing up to invest $3 billion in stem cell research via universities and research institutions." Google "california stem cell institute stanford" and you'll see Dr. Irv Weissman is very busy as director of the Stanford Institute for Cancer/Stem Cell Biology and Medicine - a brand new Institute that was built in a big hurry just to get its hands on that funding and career-making prestige research.
Maybe one reason for the inflated controversy is that the Institute heads and the Med School Deans feel there should be absolutely no research-restrictions of any sort, because these are the same people who are badmouthing the Administration and even claiming (in a major Hospital publication) that Right Wing Evangelicals are behind the President's decision. Fearmongering for Money is what it's called. Typical Blue-state hysteria as I've known it for years...

06 September, 2006 12:50  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Watch out dirtcrasr - Rasta will thump you for that 'partisan bickering'.

Doesn't seem to matter one speck that what you say is the absolute truth.

06 September, 2006 23:49  
Blogger Rastaman said...

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12 September, 2006 03:18  
Blogger Rastaman said...

Decided there's no point any further in trying to reach closed minds. I'll just say this: I'm not a liberal, and anyone calling me a liberal has never read my blog.

Since Mike and Skye are so careless about commenting on my supposed drug use, I have to assume that they're druggies or they would know what an insult that is.

I do not allow personal attacks on me in my blog. It's as if someone came into my home and proceeded to insult me. Likewise, I don't attack blog hosts on their blogs and I don't continue to post on blogs where the host attacks me and allows other to do so. It's rude, pointless and dysfunctional.

I am not the topic here, on other blogs or on my own. Since you came back and commented again on mine after all this, I decided to make one last comment here.

I think you owe me an apology and I think your reaction to that idea is denial and outrage. Until you see fit to make one, though, I'll stay gone. I doubt you'll see that as much of a loss anyway.

I've enjoyed commenting here. Until everyone went apeshit over politics it was fun.


12 September, 2006 03:39  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Rasta - I attacked you??! I find it ridiculous that you lecture me on not allowing attacks on your blog - and then you come over and spew 3 paragraphs of venom simply because I disagreed with you.

I've seen this before from you.

13 September, 2006 00:13  

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